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I deeply apologize for the misinformation. My original post was  
rejected for being too long and in the editing process I made a  
terrible, terrible mistake. Yes there are MA programs in museum  
studies. In the original post I made the point that MANY museum  
studies are certificate programs. I made the example of the  
University of Delaware in the longer post which works cooperatively  
with Winterthur, Hagley, and Longwood Gardens to give fellows in  
those programs a certificate in Museum Studies, but the MA is in  
something else. In the case of Winterthur it is Early American  
Studies. (One can get a Masters in Conservation  Science [art not  
environment] at Winterthur, but I don't think that is what we are  
talking about)

Of course there are Museum Studies programs that award stand alone  
degrees. Those may even be in the majority for all I know. My point  
was simply to illustrate the difference between certificate as an  
academic recognition and certification as a licensing procedure.

My apologies for the sloppy, late-night editing.

Matthew White


On Oct 16, 2007, at 12:48 AM, Alice Forbes wrote:

> ISEN-ASTC-L is a service of the Association of Science-Technology  
> Centers
> Incorporated, a worldwide network of science museums and related  
> institutions.
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> I am responding to Matthew White's note that there is no MA program in
> Museum Studies.  I haven't followed the whole thread so please  
> excuse if
> this has been mentioned.  I have worked in the ISE field for a long  
> time and
> I have an MA in Museum Studies from the Cooperstown Graduate  
> Program - one
> of the oldest museum studies programs in the country (along with
> Winterthur.)  The MA at Cooperstown was created in the 1960's by  
> civic and
> philanthropic leaders who felt they needed to provide professional  
> training
> for staff of museums.  I'm sure there are other examples. - Alice
> -- 
> Alice Forbes
> David Heil & Associates, Inc.
> 4614 SW Kelly Ave, Suite 100
> Portland, OR 97239
> phone: 503-245-2102; fax: 503-245-2628
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>
> Date:    Mon, 15 Oct 2007 21:19:36 -0400
> From:    Matthew White <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: more,more standards - more
>
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> I find this conversation interesting and I hope it continues. Reading
> the messages all in one sitting, some things strike me.
>
> 1. I am not sure we are all using the word or concept "certification"
> in the same way. Beryl originally meant it (and please correct me if
> I am wrong) it to mean an academic award received after completing a
> series of courses or demonstrating proficiency in an area. Many
> universities have a museum studies certificate program. You major in
> an a traditional area such as history, biology, art etc and you take
> additional coursework to get a museum certificate. It is an addition
> or a focussing of the graduate degree, but there is no MA program in
> Museum Studies as a stand alone subject area. To answer Charlie's
> questions about what is provided, typically certification programs
> provide skills or practical experience to augment a more academic
> program of study for fields that need both. You do all the work for
> the traditional degree, but then get skills in museum studies,
> archival work, accounting, etc etc.
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