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Clifford Wagner <[log in to unmask]>
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Well, that web site goes straight to the favorites index.  Thanks, Eric.

How many of you read Jared Diamond's " Guns, Germs and Steel"?

Well he just came out with another  must-read book:  "Collapse- How  
Societies Choose to Fail or Succeed"  in which he looks at past  
societies that had a collapse and looks at our present societies danger  
of collapse and the consequences thereof.

One little kernel of wisdom from it:
	"Science is often misrepresented  as "the body of knowledge acquired  
by performing replicated controlled experiments in the laboratory."   
Actually, science is something much broader:  the acquisition of  
reliable knowledge about the world."

That is the clearest definition of science I've ever heard; one worthy  
of conveying to our visitors.

Clifford Wagner

On Jan 23, 2005, at 12:01 PM, Eric Siegel (home) wrote:

> ISEN-ASTC-L is a service of the Association of Science-Technology  
> Centers
> Incorporated, a worldwide network of science museums and related  
> institutions.
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>
> This is a thought provoking site, if you haven't seen it you might find
> of interest.  The Edge's annual question and responses from assorted
> scientific heavies http://www.edge.org/q2005/q05_print.html
>
> Eric Siegel
> Executive VP
>    Programs and Planning
> Connections Project Director
> New York Hall of Science
> 47-01 111th Street
> Queens, NY 11368
> [log in to unmask]
> www.nyscience.org
>
> More info from the site:
>
> =================================
>
> "WHAT DO YOU BELIEVE IS TRUE EVEN THOUGH YOU CANNOT PROVE IT?"
>
> Great minds can sometimes guess the truth before they have either the
> evidence or arguments for it (Diderot called it having the "esprit de
> divination"). What do you believe is true even though you cannot prove
> it?
>
> The 2005 Edge Question has generated many eye-opening responses from a
> "who's who" of third culture scientists and science-minded thinkers.  
> The
> 120 contributions comprise a document of 60,000 words.
>
> ....
> We are in the age of "searchculture", in which Google and other search
> engines are leading us into a future rich with an abundance of correct
> answers along with an accompanying naοve sense of certainty. In the
> future, we will be able to answer the question, but will we be bright
> enough to ask it?
>
> This is an alternative path. It may be that it's okay not to be  
> certain,
> but to have a hunch, and to perceive on that basis. There is also
> evidence here that the scientists are thinking beyond their individual
> fields. Yes, they are engaged in the science of their own areas of
> research, but more importantly they are also thinking deeply about
> creating new understandings about the limits of science, of seeing
> science not just as a question of knowing things, but as a means of
> tuning into the deeper questions of who we are and how we know.
>
> It may sound as if I am referring to a group of intellectuals, and not
> scientists. In fact, I refer to both. In 1991, I suggested the idea of  
> a
> third culture, which "consists of those scientists and other thinkers  
> in
> the empirical world who, through their work and expository writing, are
> taking the place of the traditional intellectual in rendering visible
> the deeper meanings of our lives, redefining who and what we are. "
>
> I believe that the scientists of the third culture are the pre-eminent
> intellectuals of our time. But I can't prove it.
>
> Happy New Year!
>
> John Brockman
> Publisher & Editor
>
> This year's Edge Question was suggested by Nicholas Humphrey.
>
> (120 contributors; 60,000 words:) Howard Gardner • Nicholas Humphrey •
> Marc D. Hauser • Daniel Gilbert • George Dyson • Daniel C. Dennett •
> William Calvin • Lawrence Krauss • Neil Gershenfeld • Joseph LeDoux •
> Stephen Kosslyn • Philip W. Anderson • Kevin Kelly • Paul Davies • Haim
> Harari • Janna Levin • Steven Pinker • Alison Gopnik • Martin E. P.
> Seligman • John McWhorter • Freeman Dyson • Robert Sapolsky • Leonard
> Susskind • Keith Devlin • Susan Blackmore • Clifford Pickover • Piet  
> Hut
> • Gino Segre • Roger Schank • Alan Kay • Bruce Sterling • Judith Rich
> Harris • Arnold Trehub • Gregory Benford • Lynn Margulis • Sam Harris •
> Elizabeth Spelke • Kai Krause • Todd Feinberg • Nassim Nicholas Taleb •
> Irene Pepperberg • Jesse Bering • Scott Atran • Karl Sabbagh • Gary
> Marcus • Stuart A. Kauffman • Ray Kurzweil • John Barrow • Jaron Lanier
> • Alex Pentland • Richard Dawkins • Jean Paul Schmetz • Thomas  
> Metzinger
> • John R. Skoyles • John Horgan • David Gelernter • Jordan Pollack •  
> Lee
> Smolin • Mihaly Csikszentmihalyi • Jeffrey Epstein • Michael Shermer •
> Leon Lederman • Tom Standage • Simon Baron-Cohen • Stephen Petranek •  
> J.
> Craig Venter • Maria Spiropulu • David Buss • Esther Dyson • David  
> Myers
> • Denis Dutton • Donald Hoffman • Kenneth Ford • Margaret Wertheim •
> Alun Anderson • Philip Zimbardo • Paul Bloom • Robert Provine • W.
> Daniel Hillis • Martin Nowak • Seth Lloyd • Donald I. Williamson •
> Jonathan Haidt • Rebecca Goldstein • Ned Block • Christine Finn •  
> Rupert
> Sheldrake • Rudy Rucker • Douglas Rushkoff • Verena Huber-Dyson • Chris
> W. Anderson • Charles Simonyi • Carolyn Porco • Martin Rees • Pamela
> McCorduck • James O'Donnell • John McCarthy • Carlo Rovelli • Leo
> Chalupa • Howard Rheingold • Steve Giddings • Tor Nψrretranders •
> Stanislas Deheane • Benoit Mandelbrot • Ellen Winner • Paul Steinhardt  
> •
> Oliver Morton • Alexander Vilenkin • Terrence Sejnowski • Brian Goodwin
> • Stephen H. Schneider • Randolph Nesse • Timothy Taylor • Marti Hearst
> • Daniel Goleman • Jared Diamond • Anton Zeilinger • Ian Wilmut •  
> Robert
> Trivers • Ian McEwan
>
> Eric Siegel
> Executive VP
>    Programs and Planning
> Connections Project Director
> New York Hall of Science
> 47-01 111th Street
> Queens, NY 11368
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> www.nyscience.org
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