Cathy said: "And help them learn to go to the john *with* the baby attached, if that's what it takes," just to clarify for you British -- a john is a toilet, not a pimp, in America. chuckling, Magda Sachs Breastfeeding Network, BfN, UK *********************************************** The LACTNET mailing list is powered by L-Soft's renowned LISTSERV(R) list management software together with L-Soft's LSMTP(TM) mailer for lightning fast mail delivery. For more information, go to: http://www.lsoft.com/LISTSERV-powered.html