I've Emailed this mom again today. She likes Johanna's massage and co bath idea. Baby is feeding a lot. 5 times in past 4 hours. Mom says "Any more often, and I'd have to learn to nurse her while wearing only the sling, so she can nurse 10 times an hour as in those cultures we discussed." Lately the baby has been better. I've ben wondering if this baby has a basically funny suck/tongue action but when she is really hungry the baby corrects/modifies her suck for maximum milk yield and mom does not get sore. -Rob Rob Cordes, Do, FAAP, FACOP general pediatrician Wilkes Barre PA mailto:[log in to unmask] *********************************************** The LACTNET mailing list is powered by L-Soft's renowned LISTSERV(R) list management software together with L-Soft's LSMTP(TM) mailer for lightning fast mail delivery. For more information, go to: http://www.lsoft.com/LISTSERV-powered.html