Barbara Wilson-Clay noted: << Take a look at what happened to the natural childbirth movement when it was institutionalized and all the Lamaze instructors began to work for the hospitals. >> Better yet, take a look at what happened to the natural childbirth movement when the hospitals started designating their own nurses as childbirth educators, and classes went from being Lamaze classes to "Childbirth Preparation" classes....it was the difference between empowering women to birth their own babies and preparing them for the hospital way of doing things. And, my friends, we who work with bf moms and babies are the recipients of the LACK of natural childbirth! What we are seeing now in hospitals are nurses who are designated the "Lactation Specialist" because "you like bf." They aren't really, down deep in their souls, lactation consultants.... although some evolve into truly LCs....and for those, I am grateful. But I have a feeling that if we aren't careful, lactation consulting (and bf) is going to go the way of natural childbirth...."Oh yes, I exclusively brfd my baby for 3 months! We only gave him a couple of bottles of formula a day so he would get used to it and daddy could participate in his care!" Cynical in Wheaton, I remain frustrated with the status quo.... Jan Barger