Thanks to all who have posted to the list and to me privately about my client who is struggling to estab. a normal milk supply for baby # 7. Toby and others who posted publically mentioned many mothers who successfully bfed many children. Some of the private posts described situations uncannily like the one I'm working with. I do have another piece of info about my client. Its funny how sometimes it takes sev. contacts to get the whole story. I consider this an important clue -- though I don't know what it means, but the mother just told it to me as a " by the way" aside. She feels tremendous cold in her chest and breasts, and really has to protect herself from chills. This started with baby #4, gotworse with #5. By # 6, the first one with whom she exper. lact. failure, she developed teeth chattering and the shakes her breasts were so cold. She reports that she sits now at the dinner table and spontaneously begins to shiver. I find this alarming and have advised her to seek medical attention for this symptom. Anyone ever heard of this and have any ideas on how this could be effected by bfg? I asked her to observe for blanching of the nipples when this occurs. Raynauds perhaps? she is still pumping only about 1/2 oz each breast. She pumped q 8 with classic in double mode for 7 days while still bfg ad lib. Milk supply has not changed. Barbara