Thanks to all who replied re the mom with no milk at one week. No, no pp bleeding at all - questioned her about that. Also breasts "normal." Since no bleeding, and a C/Sec, I don't think retained placenta culprit either. I suspect psych r/t baby going to Loyola, but we will have to see. Originally it was supposed to be an in and out surgery for dilated ureters, but looks much more complex than that. Mom didn't give me more details - don't know that she had them at that time. Isn't this fun? Aren't my bills going up - up - up??? Oh well. I do enjoy it! KGA & KB: Congrats on 47 new members! Are you SURE you want to mention this in the Globe?? <big g>. It was "advertised" in a conference 4/7 that KGA and I were doing, so there may be more coming soon! Take care all - Jan Barger [log in to unmask]