Margaret Sabo Wills, thanks for your wisdom, as always. Update: Baby did latch in laid back w/o the nipple shield and mother is more amenable to using the shield as "training wheels" for a while. I think we're headed in the right direction. *********************************************** Archives: http://community.lsoft.com/archives/LACTNET.html To reach list owners: [log in to unmask] Mail all list management commands to: [log in to unmask] COMMANDS: 1. To temporarily stop your subscription write in the body of an email: set lactnet nomail 2. To start it again: set lactnet mail 3. To unsubscribe: unsubscribe lactnet 4. To get a comprehensive list of rules and directions: get lactnet welcome