hear, hear Pamela! Time at breast doesn't equal volume obtained, just as you and Nikki have pointed out. and while baby is there, ineffectively feeding, mom's supply tanks :-( I think you need to share this via JHL :-) Pat in SNJ *********************************************** Archives: http://community.lsoft.com/archives/LACTNET.html To reach list owners: [log in to unmask] Mail all list management commands to: [log in to unmask] COMMANDS: 1. To temporarily stop your subscription write in the body of an email: set lactnet nomail 2. To start it again: set lactnet mail 3. To unsubscribe: unsubscribe lactnet 4. To get a comprehensive list of rules and directions: get lactnet welcome