Laura Spitzfaden asks for suggestions on the case of the one month old baby whose tongue tie and tight labial frenulum were treated two days ago. I can understand your frustration, Laura - and I don't have anything to add to the useful things you are doing already. When the baby has not been able to strengthen his tongue for the first month using the kind of movements he will now be capable of, it will take longer than if the problem had been solved in the first few days. But given time the odds are overwhelmingly in favor of a full resolution of her pain. If you can help the mother to have a realistic expectation of how long this will take, and help her to watch for progress over days, not from one feed to the next, you increase those odds even more. I would not expect completely painless feeds for the first week but I would expect to see some progress. She might observe that he needs less time on a feed as he gets more effective at suckling before she notices a dramatic change in sensation. Biological nurturing positions will still be very useful in helping him to find the best way to position himself and attach. The most frustrating thing with tongue tie is how hard it is to convince the people in charge of treating it that it is worth the bother. All the misinformation they get is appalling, like the mother who was told it was too late at one month and she'd have to wait 6 mos and baby would need general anesthetic, pure nonsense. Good luck to this family, Laura, and if you can, let us know how it goes. Rachel Myr Kristiansand, Norway *********************************************** Archives: http://community.lsoft.com/archives/LACTNET.html To reach list owners: [log in to unmask] Mail all list management commands to: [log in to unmask] COMMANDS: 1. To temporarily stop your subscription write in the body of an email: set lactnet nomail 2. To start it again: set lactnet mail 3. To unsubscribe: unsubscribe lactnet 4. To get a comprehensive list of rules and directions: get lactnet welcome