Does he have excessive muscle tone in jaw and/or lips? Has she tried BF him in a quiet, dimly-lit room? Breast compressions? BF him while he is drowsy? Watching for active swallowing pattern and once he shows signs of slowing down (which could be a precursor to biting down), she can either bring him into the breast closer or/and start breast compressions? Has she watched to make sure that he is latched deeply throughout the feed? Sometimes they latch deeply in the beginning, then mom's wrist gets tired, flops over and the kid slides off to the nipple tip and chomps down. Does she make sure to feed per earliest feeding cues, so that he doesn't get so frustrated with the slow flow because of hunger? Does she have an overactive MER, which might mean he is biting down to control the gush of milk? Just brainstorming here... Larisa Walk, RD, IBCLC California, USA -----Original Message----- From: Lactation Information and Discussion [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Kathleen Gale Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2010 8:32 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Barracuda Feeder Hurting Mom Hi! Ladies, I have permission to post from mother. My dear daughter-in-law is breastfeeding her 2nd child, who is 5 months old. She has a good milk supply. He has been a barracuda feeder from day one, and she has had many problems with her nipples, including persistent yeast infections and mastitis. Right now, her nipples are fine, except that he bites her off and on, and also pulls back and down while hanging on to her nipple for dear life. I am guessing he is impatient for another MER. The usual methods of taking him off, telling him "NO!, that hurts mommy!" and putting him back on, does not work, because whenever she does anything that HINTS that she is going to take him off, he clamps down even harder, and will not let go. He clamps down before she can get her finger in and around the nipple. He clamps down even if her hand comes near his face. Mom is at her wits end, and is getting really tired of this constant pain. Does anyone have any suggesstions for ways to get him delatched in a way that won't hurt mom? With just about anything she tries, he bites down harder. Hoping for some great ideas! Kathleen L. Gale RN, IBCLC, RLC Private Practice Chicago, IL, USA *********************************************** Archives: http://community.lsoft.com/archives/LACTNET.html To reach list owners: [log in to unmask] Mail all list management commands to: [log in to unmask] COMMANDS: 1. To temporarily stop your subscription write in the body of an email: set lactnet nomail 2. To start it again: set lactnet mail 3. To unsubscribe: unsubscribe lactnet 4. To get a comprehensive list of rules and directions: get lactnet welcome *********************************************** Archives: http://community.lsoft.com/archives/LACTNET.html To reach list owners: [log in to unmask] Mail all list management commands to: [log in to unmask] COMMANDS: 1. To temporarily stop your subscription write in the body of an email: set lactnet nomail 2. To start it again: set lactnet mail 3. To unsubscribe: unsubscribe lactnet 4. To get a comprehensive list of rules and directions: get lactnet welcome