Hi Michelle, I don't believe that any harsh words were used in relation to women in the US military but in relation to the justification of systems that require involuntary separation of mothers and babies in ways that would be deemed a breach of human rights in much of the world (as pointed out so helpfully by Morgan Gallagher). Sorry that my shock was so distressing to you- though I am sure that the mother involved might find it helpful to know that there are some who find her predicament appalling. Karleen Gribble Australia -----Original Message----- From: Lactation Information and Discussion [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Michele Call Sent: Friday, 28 May 2010 2:46 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: [LACTNET] US military Regarding the harsh words below concerning mothers in the US military, it seems like it would be so much more helpful to have a little extra courtesy when dealing with cross-cultural situations. When hearing about what happens in another country, a little bit of self-restraint in sharing the level of your shock and disgust at other customs can go a long way in making this a safe forum for all of us who are trying to support mothers and babies the best we can in the cultures in which we live. Michele Call Mexico >>>>As to the discussion around women in the military, many of us outside of the US just can't get the justification of barbaric practices. It's like looking at traditions in other times or places that sanctioned rape within marriage and saying "suck it up, you chose it- that's how it is." It just seems inconceivable. Karleen Gribble Australia<<<<< *********************************************** Archives: http://community.lsoft.com/archives/LACTNET.html To reach list owners: [log in to unmask] Mail all list management commands to: [log in to unmask] COMMANDS: 1. To temporarily stop your subscription write in the body of an email: set lactnet nomail 2. To start it again: set lactnet mail 3. To unsubscribe: unsubscribe lactnet 4. To get a comprehensive list of rules and directions: get lactnet welcome *********************************************** Archives: http://community.lsoft.com/archives/LACTNET.html To reach list owners: [log in to unmask] Mail all list management commands to: [log in to unmask] COMMANDS: 1. To temporarily stop your subscription write in the body of an email: set lactnet nomail 2. To start it again: set lactnet mail 3. To unsubscribe: unsubscribe lactnet 4. To get a comprehensive list of rules and directions: get lactnet welcome