Hi All, While I am supposed to be getting ready for a much needed weekend out of town at the ocean - where am I?? Here on Lactnet! LOL! Some thoughts on some of the recent posts: The Ped who advised no breastfeeding for a newborn with Jaundice and the mother's subsequent engorgement: What is his/her reasoning for this? Now both mother and baby are in danger. Baby for (most likely) being supplemented with ABM and who will possibly lose mother's milk due to lack of milk removal for mom and engorgement that may lead to milk supply failure (or issues). Sounds to me like this person needs some serious reeducation. Re: Mother with baby #10 and babies who are losing weight. This is not a milk supply or quality issue. This is a baby issue/latching issue. Whether it is poor latching, poor milk transfer, nipples very elastic now, or baby having some physical issue (how common would that be with 3 babies???) it still has nothing to do with the quality of the milk. It always gets me that breastmilk is blamed.OK - honestly - it really makes me mad. Dr's who need to now give orders so baby can be fed at mother's breast???? Give me a break! OK - fine to have to give orders for Vit K and eye ointment - but for the breast? Yikes! T'was mentioned that the mother has the say so and how could she let the people SHE is paying tell her what to do and keep her from her baby. Unfortunately, it happens all the time. How often do I remind my clients that THEY have the RIGHT to push for treatment for both them and their babies? My client with the high thyroid - after doing some serious research together we both realize that she is in a bad situation. It is necessary for her to push the Thyroid level issue with her HCP and she has tried - but they are not interested. It isn't outside the 'range' of normal so they don't care - even tho she is having SYMPTOMS! Even tho the range of normal varies depending on what lab you go to apparently - from .5 - 5.0 or .4 -4.0 - her levels? .36. The lab she went to? Their range is .34 - 4.0. She will be finding an endocrinologist this week. In our society I am finding myself more and more frustrated and sometimes downright angry. Women who feel the need to be responsible for everyone else's feelings about NIP - when will that end? People who forget they are paying the Dr for care and don't demand appropriate care NOW because they don't remember that they have that right; Babies coming out of hospitals damaged by deliveries that were interfered with WAY more than they needed to be (if at all); I get flack here regularly from other HCP's nurses, etc, who don't understand why I refer these damaged babies (whose heads are dramatically lopsided, cranial overlaps that make them look like the Frankenstein baby, torticollis issues, broken collarbones that are MISSED!, obvious tongue ties, suck/swallow issues, severe snoring.the list goes on and on!) - and they tell the parents "It will all fix itself - just supplement with a bottle and ABM if you can't sustain the milk supply or it hurts too much to BF". Women who come out of the hospital damaged by a myriad of hospital interventions that caused more problems than they helped - who cares for them once they get home? It all has this Capricorn banging her head against the wall over and over and over.any wonder why I need a day or 2 at the ocean? Someday, maybe, our society will figure it out. BF rates are going up and down all over - hospitals have good days and bad days - hopefully one day the BF rates will be stably HIGH and the hospitals will all have good days. Someday all hospitals will be baby friendly and ABM supplementation will be a distant memory. Someday maybe, the USA government will get off its butt and stop letting the big business be in charge and make them tow the line and follow the rules. (I know - dream on.) I hope everyone has a great weekend. I am leaving this behind - I just felt a need to vent a bit.glad I can do it here. Take care all.maybe if we all put out to the Universe (or whoever your deity is) that we need a little help down here and are specific about what this society (worldwide) needs it will happen.who knows? It sure as heck can't hurt. Jaye *********************************************** Archives: http://community.lsoft.com/archives/LACTNET.html Mail all commands to [log in to unmask] To temporarily stop your subscription: set lactnet nomail To start it again: set lactnet mail (or [log in to unmask]) To unsubscribe: unsubscribe lactnet or ([log in to unmask]) To reach list owners: [log in to unmask]