I so agree with Betsy. In my experience a moderate, sensible approach with most women and medical staff works better than an extreme or militant approach. I have worked with many, many mothers who just want to use some formula. No matter what I say or don't say. I do not want to give the tiniest hint of anything that could be perceived as shaming to a new mother. Susan in Minnesota rn ibclc *********************************************** To temporarily stop your subscription: set lactnet nomail To start it again: set lactnet mail (or digest) To unsubscribe: unsubscribe lactnet All commands go to [log in to unmask] The LACTNET mailing list is powered by L-Soft's renowned LISTSERV(R) list management software together with L-Soft's LSMTP(R) mailer for lightning fast mail delivery. For more information, go to: http://www.lsoft.com/LISTSERV-powered.html