As a registered daycare provider, I've watched many breastfed babies. However, I am a home daycare provider, as opposed to a center-based daycare. 24oz in the time that baby is at daycare does seem like way too much. Starting with bottles of approx 3oz of expressed milk is a good start. However, most infants will only take this every 2.5 to three hours. If the daycare providers are saying that baby is crying all the time, except when receiving a bottle, there could be many reasons. Even on a slow-flow nipple, the hole in the nipple could be enlarging as it's used and washed. Therefore, baby is taking in more milk, not realizing he's full, so still seeming hungry. Baby may also be taking in more air, and needing to be burped more. Baby could also be reacting to the stress of the daycare provider. The provider is obviously used to infants that take more at each feeding. So, when baby cries for any reason, they automatically assume that there's no way he could be full, since he only had three ounces. Consequently, they aren't really giving other calming techniques an honest shot. You already mentioned feeding baby sitting up, and keeping baby upright after feeding to reduce spitup. Both very good suggestions. I've had several infants in my daycare that reach a point of being so upset that very little will calm them. I've solved that by putting them in a sling, and allowed baby's arm to slide under my shirt, and feel the skin at my waist. Calms them immediately, because it's so similar to what they experience with their mother while nursing. I'm ok with the touching because of my own nursling, who recently weaned, but I understand that some daycare providers may not be ok with this technique. I also have had a infant in my care who needed lots of pressure on his tummy between feedings. His mother also had extremely large supply, and a powerful letdown. He spit up A LOT, too. The tummy pressure made him feel so much better, and helped release some gas. He spit up on me, but he was going to spit up on me anyway, so why not spit up while he was happy instead of while he was crying? I did lots of different holds to put pressure on his tummy, including laying him across my lap, holding him so the palm of my hand is against his stomach and his back is against my tummy, and reclining in a rocking chair with him on my tummy, tummy to tummy. Of course, I always covered myself with a towel to catch the spitup! This same child loved the baby swing, the type that's a cradle swing, so it swings side-to-side. This child absolutely hated laying flat on his back, even for diaper changes. Blanket time on the floor worked if the blanket was interesting to look at; he hated the gym-type blankets with mobile and toys hanging over him. He liked to sit in a bouncy seat or his car seat and watch the other kids play around him, though. Many providers also are not used to having a breastfed infant around. These infants simply want to be held more than other infants in our culture (in the USA, anyway), and often, providers aren't used to this. It's an adjustment that providers don't even realize needs to happen, and until it's pointed out, the mother may not realize this, either. Finally, if despite lots of information sharing, and talking between the mother and the provider, don't improve the situation, can the mother find other childcare? Please let me know if you or the mother have other questions, I'd be happy to help. Shannon Rittenhouse Sterling,VA *********************************************** To temporarily stop your subscription: set lactnet nomail To start it again: set lactnet mail (or digest) To unsubscribe: unsubscribe lactnet All commands go to [log in to unmask] The LACTNET mailing list is powered by L-Soft's renowned LISTSERV(R) list management software together with L-Soft's LSMTP(R) mailer for lightning fast mail delivery. For more information, go to: http://www.lsoft.com/LISTSERV-powered.html