>>Could you describe how "special K" would apply to latch on? I have never heard of it. Thanks, Kathy Eng, BSW, IBCLC>> Kathy, Special K latch refers to the giant letter K on the box of Kellogg's Special K cereal. The angle is about 160 degrees, just like the corners of a baby's mouth should be if attached correctly to the breast. It's just a good visual for moms to use when checking for signs of a good latch. I have a cut out of the big red K that I hold up in class. I like it much better than the "fish lips" analogy because I think of a fish having a 90 degree angle to their mouth when flanging their lips. Has anyone else heard of this? Linda Anderegg, RNC, IBCLC, RLC *********************************************** To temporarily stop your subscription: set lactnet nomail To start it again: set lactnet mail (or digest) To unsubscribe: unsubscribe lactnet All commands go to [log in to unmask] The LACTNET mailing list is powered by L-Soft's renowned LISTSERV(R) list management software together with L-Soft's LSMTP(R) mailer for lightning fast mail delivery. For more information, go to: http://www.lsoft.com/LISTSERV-powered.html