In a message dated 1/24/2004 1:19:00 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: As you well know, a newborn is normally sleepy and lethargic within the first couple of days. Assuming he is a healthy, good sized newborn there is no need Dear Friends: Dr. Emde identified the sleep-wake patterns of 8 babies in a research study back in the 80s.All 8 had spells of wakefulness and sleep, even those that came from medicated labors. Babies are not normally lethargic after birth, or ever. Babies that are induced, injured, drugged, and separated from their mothers go into 'hide and defend' mode. They retreat into their shells, like turtles. Dr. Nils Bergman has talked about this, and so do other researchers. While this is a normal response to stress, it is not characteristic of the normal newborn. After spending a week working as an LC in a local hospital, I wonder if anybody ever sees a normal newborn anymore. Very sad. warmly, Nikki Lee RN, MS, Mother of 2, IBCLC, CCE, CIMI Maternal-Child Adjunct Faculty Union Institute and University Film Editor, Journal of Human Lactation Support the WHO Code and the Mother-Friendly Childbirth Initiative *********************************************** To temporarily stop your subscription: set lactnet nomail To start it again: set lactnet mail (or digest) To unsubscribe: unsubscribe lactnet All commands go to [log in to unmask] The LACTNET mailing list is powered by L-Soft's renowned LISTSERV(R) list management software together with L-Soft's LSMTP(R) mailer for lightning fast mail delivery. For more information, go to: http://www.lsoft.com/LISTSERV-powered.html