I appreciate everyone's comments on this thread. Someone pointed out that the hospital 'culture' itself is a factor in untimely weaning. Absolutely. Jan gave several examples of this. However, even mothers who attended prenatal bf class, and learned more about this with the LC postpartally, still often 'allow' the babies to spend 9p-9a in the nsy getting quite a few formula feeds. Part of this is the nsy staff's doing to be sure, but part of it is the mother's decision. I wonder, too, if hospital-based LCs - who are expected to round on every bf dyad (some more motivated than others) experience more frustration than private practice LCs who are being sought out by the mother. Lots of moms say they want to do breast/bottle and so instead of saying "OKay" the LC begins some gentle education. In either case, Barbara is right, the LC has to 'let go.' I surely will be working more on this. In fact, I will practice on Monday. Good luck to test takers. Laurie Wheeler, IBCLC, MN, RN - recertified last year New Orleans Louisiana, s.e. USA _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 *********************************************** To temporarily stop your subscription: set lactnet nomail To start it again: set lactnet mail (or digest) To unsubscribe: unsubscribe lactnet All commands go to [log in to unmask] The LACTNET mailing list is powered by L-Soft's renowned LISTSERV(R) list management software together with L-Soft's LSMTP(TM) mailer for lightning fast mail delivery. For more information, go to: http://www.lsoft.com/LISTSERV-powered.html