I have always figured the asymetric latch works because babies' mouths are asymetrical!! A central lach means the baby's tongue gets in the way. An asymetric latch allows the dome of the palate to be full of breast, and for the tongue to scoop up more breast. I get mothers to demo this for themselves when I am speaking to them on the phone, or face to face. They take their thumb and place it centrally in their open mouth (with tongue forward) - they can feel their tongue acting as a barrier. But putting the thumb in so it goes in the top of the mouth means they can feel how much further it goes. Tipping the head back very slightly as a baby should be able to do, makes the point even more clearly. Heather Welford Neil NCT, UK *********************************************** To temporarily stop your subscription: set lactnet nomail To start it again: set lactnet mail (or digest) To unsubscribe: unsubscribe lactnet All commands go to [log in to unmask] The LACTNET mailing list is powered by L-Soft's renowned LISTSERV(R) list management software together with L-Soft's LSMTP(TM) mailer for lightning fast mail delivery. For more information, go to: http://www.lsoft.com/LISTSERV-powered.html