Winnie asks: < Hmmm-can anyone come up with a set-up that has the action and flow variation of Haberman and the wide-mouth opening of the Avent nipple? (I know it already exists-the human breast. I'm talking about those times when for whatever reason, valid in our opinion or not, baby is going to get a bottle.)> We are having success "retraining parents" (and grandparents) of WIC breastfeeding babies, when the adults have chosen to use a bottle at times for whatever reason, and then interpret their baby's rapid "chugg-a-lugging" as proof of extreme hunger. We explain that this is actually a stressful struggle on the baby's part to keep from choking on the flow, and we explain this method: Kassing D, "Bottle feeding as a tool to reinforce Breastfeeding", J Hum Lact 2002:18(1);56-60. Jean ********* K. Jean Cotterman RNC, RLC, IBCLC Dayton, OH USA *********************************************** To temporarily stop your subscription: set lactnet nomail To start it again: set lactnet mail (or digest) To unsubscribe: unsubscribe lactnet All commands go to [log in to unmask] The LACTNET mailing list is powered by L-Soft's renowned LISTSERV(R) list management software together with L-Soft's LSMTP(TM) mailer for lightning fast mail delivery. For more information, go to: http://www.lsoft.com/LISTSERV-powered.html