This may be getting a bit too late for you now Jenni - hopefully the problem is nearly solved. However you may consider using magnesium sulphate (Epsom salts) dissolved in an ice cream container of warm water and ask the mother to submerge her breast in it. The warm water and the soaking encourages the milk ejection reflex and the epsom salts work mysteriously to reduce the oedema. Mothers I have used this technique with love it. Someone mentioned using ultrasound - there was a randomised, double blind study published in Breastfeeding Review several years ago which compared therapeutic ultrasound to same equipment minus the ultrasound crystal - the results showed that the ultrasound was of no more benefit than the massage which I believe Jenni is already using. Good luck Jenni Denise ************************************************* Denise Fisher MMP, BN, IBCLC BreastEd Online Lactation Studies Courses http://www.health-e-learning.com ************************************************* *********************************************** To temporarily stop your subscription: set lactnet nomail To start it again: set lactnet mail (or digest) To unsubscribe: unsubscribe lactnet All commands go to [log in to unmask] The LACTNET mailing list is powered by L-Soft's renowned LISTSERV(R) list management software together with L-Soft's LSMTP(TM) mailer for lightning fast mail delivery. For more information, go to: http://www.lsoft.com/LISTSERV-powered.html