Karen, thank you for your post. Once I had a mom go to a massage therapist for a lymphatic drainage when she had a large mass that wouldn't drain. It immediately drained. Your description is great because it can be done at home. By the way, I can't believe that I failed to mention Rescue Remedy along with my other recommendations for getting the milk to begin flowing. In the case that I mentioned the mom used RR also after the cabbage leaves over both breasts. Pat Gima Mailto:[log in to unmask] *********************************************** To temporarily stop your subscription: set lactnet nomail To start it again: set lactnet mail (or digest) To unsubscribe: unsubscribe lactnet All commands go to [log in to unmask] The LACTNET mailing list is powered by L-Soft's renowned LISTSERV(R) list management software together with L-Soft's LSMTP(TM) mailer for lightning fast mail delivery. For more information, go to: http://www.lsoft.com/LISTSERV-powered.html