Trish: hav e her try with a flexishield or some other softer flange and see if it makes a difference. I suspect that the gland is getting irritated by something and that cuases the problem... not sure where the irritation origionates ... internally or externally but the flange pressure may further agrivate the situation. Patricia *********************************************** The LACTNET mailing list is powered by L-Soft's renowned LISTSERV(R) list management software together with L-Soft's LSMTP(TM) mailer for lightning fast mail delivery. For more information, go to: http://www.lsoft.com/LISTSERV-powered.html