In Dutch speaking countries we are trying to convert the name for side hold into ''bakerhouding'', where ''houding'' means ''hold'' and ''baker'' is an old word for babycaretaker. In ancient days these women often took care of more babies at the same time and it seemed that they carried the babies safest when wrapped in tight cloths and one under each arm. For the time being many/most use the wor ''rugbyhold'', for what Americans call football is named rugby here and our football (voetbal/soccer) is played with the feet and touching the ball with arms or hands is a penalty for the other team.
Warmly,
Gonneke, IBCLC, retired LLLL, MOM in southern Netherlands who will be doing a workshop on ''watch your language'' for the national breastfeeding organisation's contactpersons
--- On Wed, 10/7/09, Virginia Thorley <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
From: Virginia Thorley <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: [LACTNET] Terminology-sidehold
To: [log in to unmask]
Date: Wednesday, October 7, 2009, 11:20 PM
On the subject terminology, Ellen Shein raised the question of what we
should call the baby's side-lying position at the breast. I've heard a
variety of terms used - "underarm position", "football hold", "twin style",
"side hold". As regards "football hold", while the term comes from American
football, two of the four football codes played in Australia, rugby union
and rugby league, use an elliptical ball. An elliptical ball is more
holdable, I guess. (I'm not really into football as regards rules, etc -
though both my daughters play or have played as adults. Actually, one of my
daughters is playing in a 5th football code, called touch football, at the
Masters games in Sydney next week.)
Ellen, I agree with you that we need to use appropriate terms that people in
other countries can understand, and which translate well, culturally.
Virginia, in Brisbane, Queensland
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Ellen Shein wrote:
"The FOOTBALL hold!!!!!!!!!!
Can we all agree to call it what it is - a side hold.?????
"A football in the USA is an eliptical ball held under ones arm while
running to a goal.
"A football in Europe and most parts of the world is round and more commonly
known as a soccer ball and kicked with the feet to the opponents goal.
What connection could there possibly be between the European soccer ball and
a football hold?? None. ...."
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