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Kathleen Bruce <[log in to unmask]>
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Hi Linda...you are in luck. This is a subject that has been posted on in
greath depth on this list, in the past 7 years. We have archives that are
at your disposal, and so please take a look at what we have for you,
keeping in mind that this information is freely added to the list archives,
but not moderated or checked in any way, but still, it is there for ideas,
etc. It is always best to check these archives, as it is simple and
fruitful, allowing you to get what you need as soon as possible, and
avoiding repetition on our list...so that discussions may branch to new
topics, situations, etc.

Cleft lips, by the way, are much easier to deal with than cleft palate
babies in terms of breastfeeding. Often, the baby can breastfeed right
after surgery...as this beats the heck out of a screaming baby putting
stress on suture lines.  Also, remember that when we are requesting
references, it is always good to go back and ask the person involved, in
this case, the physician, for references for HIS/HER position...those who
suggest interventions should have references to back up their statements
and recommendations. The burden of proof does not lie with you...but with them.

Here are the instructions on how to search the archives of Lactnet. Use it
if you wish to find other articles by either certain writers, or by topic,
such as Cleft lip.

ARCHIVAL SEARCH INSTRUCTIONS

  This is a clarification of how to do SEARCH functions on Lactnet..it is
very useful to have this information at your finger tips, and to try it out.
Many times, a topic has been discussed, and you can benefit from finding
past posts on the topic you are interested in.

For info's sake, there are a few different ways to do a search for subject
matter or sender on Lactnet material.  We have  Lactnet posts from 1995 to
now  presently available to you .

The first way is to do the searches by email through the
[log in to unmask] address.  The second way is accessing the
archives from our archive web site at LACTNET Archives
http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/lactnet.html. The following
instructions apply to the first method, searching via the listserv.

For instance, if you are interested in finding all the notes that have

cleft lip

  in the text since  March 1995, you can send an email message to
[log in to unmask]  that says

SEARCH cleft lip  in LACTNET since March 1995

this listserv command goes to [log in to unmask]

If you are interested in finding several different words in Lactnet posts,
such as the following, it might seem that the right way to do it is to do
several *different* searches, in separate notes to listserv, like....

  search epilepsy in lactnet

  search tegretol in lactnet

  search carbamazepine in lactnet

  search phenobarbital in lactnet

to the  [log in to unmask] address.  However, this is not an
effective way to utilize the search function, as it taxes the system, and is
ineffective.

We are glad that you all are using the search functions, and here are a few
hints....and suggestions on how best to do SEARCHes on Lactnet.

You can put several commands into a single message, and should do so
when you can (because it's easier for both you and the machine).  Just
put each command onto its own line.  Second, it will be much easier for
you to make sense of the output if you put everything you want from
LACTNET into a single command:

SEARCH EPILEPSY OR TEGRETOL OR CARBAMAZEPINE OR PHENOBARBITAL OR PROZAC  IN
LACTNET

... like that.  Or you can do things like this, too:

SEARCH EPILEPSY AND (TEGRETOL OR CARBAMAZEPINE OR PHENOBARBITAL) IN LACTNET

Rather than having to combine the lists of results that LISTSERV gives
you to from those individual searches, let it do the work for you.

If you were interested in searching for all the posts that I have made, for
instance, on Lactnet, you could do a

SEARCH * in Lactnet where sender contains Bruce
to the [log in to unmask] address.

If you wanted to see all the posts I've made since Jan 1997, for instance,
you could do a

SEARCH * in Lactnet where sender contains Bruce SINCE Jan 1997

to [log in to unmask]

If you are searching for several words that are together, such as

Breastmilk storage container

  you should first know that the Listserv automatically assumes  "NEAR" between
all  the  words, so  they not only have to be in the same article but also
within a few words of each other. In addition, unless you  *have* to search
the entire set of archives, you  should always limit the search  with a date
specifier like this:

search breastmilk storage containers in LACTNET since Jan 1998

It is important  to specify  the search. Limiting the search and making
requests specific places less stress on the system.   Many articles talking
about
breast milk would separate  the two words,  and that  some articles  talking
about containers might only say "container", etc.  Specifying a search that
gets all or most of what you want with a minimum of what you don't is as
much of an art as a science.

For information on searching, write to [log in to unmask]  with
the command

    INFO DATABASE.

When you use the SEARCH function, the computer will send you back a "menu"
of posts, each having a 4 digit number (####).  You can then order the posts
you want with the  command

GETPOST Lactnet #### #### #### ####

to [log in to unmask]

Last but not least, the search function is also available at the WEB SITE
LACTNET Archives http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/lactnet.html

Thanks, from Lactnet administrators-

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At 10:15 AM 10/10/2002 -0500, you wrote:
>I would like to request specifice information on breastfeeding after cleft
>lip/palate repair.  I'm working with a baby who has a cleft lip, no palate
>involvement, and the physician has instructed the mother the baby can't
>nurse for three weeks, while the lip is repairing.  That seems like major
>overkill to me!  References would be greatly appreciated.  Thanks!  Linda
>
>Linda J. Tandy, MSN, RN, CCM, IBCLC
>Clinical Nurse Specialist
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