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Hello Lactnetters,
I am shocked and saddened in regards to the negative feedback that has been directly aimed at Karleen Gribble!   The article she authored and shared, which I thoroughly read, was a case study.  A case study!!  No where in the report did I detect negative bias to the individual or the trans community. In contrary, I felt the report effectively shed light on an issue that I may encounter and am now able to effectively support as it provided me with anticipatory guidance and added knowledge to my Lactation “toolkit.” 
Thank you, Karleen, for taking the time to publish this article. 
Sincerely,
Amy


Amy Wagner, BS, RN, CCES, IBCLC
Palmyra, PA 

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> Date:    Sat, 11 Feb 2023 16:35:10 +1100
> From:    Karleen Gribble <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: Trans Health
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> Hi Rachelle,Thank you for entering the discussion. It seems that you
> agree with Stephanie that there are problems with my paper. Are you
> able to share with me what you believe is anti-trans, as I said, I
> think it is the opposite of anti-trans. You might be interested to
> know that a number of transgender, detrans and gender
> dysphoric-but-never-transitioned people assisted in the construction
> of the paper. They were in addition to the woman whose case study it
> is (who provided input at every stage of the writing of the paper,
> including signing off on the final version that was published). We
> have also received good feedback from other transgender people and
> detransitioners as well as others who have had a history of gender
> dysphoria but did not transition in addition to people like yourself
> who are unhappy with it- but as yet there has no specific feedback on
> why the paper is bad.Karleen GribbleAustralia 
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> Date:    Thu, 9 Feb 2023 23:23:39 -0800
> From:    Rachelle Markham 
> Subject: Trans Health
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> Karleen,
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> As you are not a member of the Trans community, you do not get a say
> in determining if something is anti-trans. 
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> I respectfully ask you to leave us alone. You repeatedly have caused
> my community harm with your bigoted articles, and opinions, comments,
> reply’s and refusal to listen & learn (You have had it spelled out
> to you on numerous platforms, repeatedly).
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> This is not an area you have compassion for, or knowledge on to be
> able to comment. 
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> Date:    Sat, 11 Feb 2023 14:28:43 +0000
> From:    "Frank J. Nice" <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: First Amendment
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> Well, Karleen, so much for First Amendment rights for you to speak up.
> I thought just being a citizen of our country guaranteed those rights and not having to be a member of some community to be able to speak out.
> Where are the monitors of this sight allowing the vitriol occurring?
> I have gotten in trouble for saying a lot less worse in the past than what is being said about you.
> I have a feeling we will hear something now.  I hope so.
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