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Leonard Roselli <[log in to unmask]>
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Thu, 8 Feb 1996 01:29:01 -0500
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I love Lactnet.!  You guys are really  good at what you do.  I loved the
responses to the clicking problem/no problem.  Some babies break the suction
prior to every swallow and make that exact clicking sound.  Why would they
break suction?  It seems most likely that the milk flow is displeasing to
them.  It is not a problem and would not damage a moms nipple because the
suckling technique is  normal in this case.  Only people who know normal and
pathological  really well can encounter something not common yet know it is
OK.   Hurray for LCs!
And the response to the cold mom.  Great response re thyroid and/or other
endocrine problems and the possible connection to lactation problems.  To
those who seem insulted at the idea that multiple births could result in the
mothers body not responding as before,  is that so farfetched?  People have
different physical constitutions.  Our bodies respond to different things in
different ways.  Our bodies are wonderful, but they are not all the same and
some are more wonderful than others.
Re overlaying:  Dr. Sears years ago stated that  overlaying is almost
completely unlikely to happen except in the cases of alcohol ingestion prior
to sleep, other drugs that affect the level of consciousness taken prior to
sleep, and certain neurological conditions in the parents.(based on research
he had read).  Any parent who takes sedatives,  nacotic analgesics , etc.
(?only prior to bed?) should not sleep with an infant.  That is as important
to pass along to parents as the concept that  co-sleeping is great for
babies/children.

Caoch Smith, you are so right about "the worst enemy of good technique is
good luck".  I would include having a milk supply like the Atlantic Ocean
despite any poor technique as good luck.  Part of being a breastfeeding
counselor is responding to incorrect information given to new or pregnant
moms by someone who has breastfed one or more kids successfully despite
being clueless.  Two experiences come to mind:  A good friend of mine would
*leak * four ounces at a time.  She breast fed her child with no problems at
all.  She alse kept her child to a strict 3 hour feeding interval.  And she
successfully pumped at (parttime) outside employment with a M __ M__  pump.
Hence, she tells every one that demand feeding is not necessary and that
those little pumps work great.  She has no idea tnat she was purely lucky.
However, she is a great advocate of breastfeeding............The second time
I experienced this was when the first pediatrician of my first child gave me
all kinds of rotten bfing info.  She had successfully breastfed 4 kids.  I
knew nothing at the time of exposure to both these people and dutifully went
out and bought my M__M__, and signed on with this pediatrician.  This kind
of misinformation is harder to counteract than that received from people who
have never breastfed.  Now, I actually proactively tell new or pregnant moms
that some moms who successfully breastfed may have had good luck despite bad
technique but that most moms with bad technique will have problems.   Better
to rely on good technique.  I also tell them that the only people who they
can surely count on to have good bfing information are IBCLCs and LLLLs who
know the fields of normal breastfeeding AND  breastfeeding
problems/pathologies/abnormalities/whatever.  Parents are positively
surrounded by landfields of breastfeeding misinformation................


Thank you for this forum in which to share ideas.

Debbie Campbell, RN, LLLL
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