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Great efforts, Hoda, and unfortunately facing issues all too many face.

Have you attended your local Bf Coalition?  I find them a fabulous resource.  Folks there may save you a lot of duplicated effort. 

I'd encourage you to develop a relationship with 1 or 2 docs.  You may find that your local WIC office has already done so.  Possibly there could be some coordinated effort to send an interested physician for further training.  I've heard of that happening in some areas.

Do you send reports to the physician?  That may be part of the process of developing the relationship.  I've also asked for permission to accompany parents to the appointment.  Once I went prepared to advocate and found the physician fully supportive (such a pleasant surprise).

Wish I could answer your other questions better.  For some reason I was under the impression that Medi-Cal covered the Purely Yours.

Mary L. Wagner-Davis, MS, MFT, IBCLC, LLLL
Roseville, CA
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 Date:    Fri, 21 Nov 2014 22:50:30 -0800
 From:    Hoda Shawky <[log in to unmask]>
 Subject: Lactation for the underserved
 
 Hello everyone,
 
 I'm a new IBCLC, and for the past 5 months, I have been
 working in a
 community clinic on a pilot project to offer lactation
 services in
 California. I have quickly taken note to the differences in
 providing BF
 care for clinic versus private practice patients. Here are
 the challenges
 I'm facing...
 
 1. For one, I'm having a lot of trouble finding an ENT
 doctor who accepts
 MediCal who will do frenotomies for posterior tongue ties or
 lip ties. They
 all state that they do them, but when I refer the patients,
 they don't do
 the procedure (with one baby, who wasn't gaining weight,
 feeds for a very
 long time, and has already chewed into the mother's nipples)
 the parents
 were told the baby didn't need it). Similar things have
 happened to other
 patients, and I truly only refer the ones who have
 significant problems
 that are not corrected with adjustments in positioning, and
 whatever else
 we can teach them in the clinic.
 
 2. Does nipple confusion sometimes mimic a posterior tongue
 tie when you
 feel the peristaltic motion of the tongue? In both cases, I
 feel the same
 thing; the posterior portion of the tongue compresses the
 finger up against
 the palate, and the motion is often disorganized. Many of
 the babies who I
 felt had tongue ties did better with my "pseudo suck
 training" (for those
 whose parents understood and were committed enough to do
 it). What I teach
 them is more a gentle stroke to relax the tongue rather than
 true training.
 This has seemed to work with some who I knew will not get
 the frenotomy. Am
 I on the right track with this? Do you use similar
 techniques to help with
 babies who are symptomatic like this?
 
 3. MediCal and our county's subsidized insurance programs
 cover 1 type of
 pump that we know of- the Evenflo single electric pump.
 Based on pt.
 feedback, they break easily and don't do very well pumping.
 Does anyone
 know of alternative pumps that insurances for the
 underserved are willing
 to cover?
 
 4. Now I just need to vent on my frustrations. While I feel
 so blessed to
 be able to encourage more exclusive breastfeeding in an area
 that has very
 little support, it's also very saddening how even something
 so natural as
 exclusive breastfeeding ends up being a luxury due to the
 lack of resources
 for the poor.
 
 5. Anyone know where a pediatric NP can be trained in
 performing
 frenotomies??!!!
 
  I'm trying to make the best of my limited resources, but I
 wanted to see
 what suggestions or wisdom you may have to offer  so
 that I may be more
 effective.
 
 
 Thank you!
 
 Peace and blessings to all,
 
 >
 > Hoda Shawky, RN, MSN, CPNP, IBCLC
 > *Owner, Baby's First Nurse*
 > (424) 26-BABY-7 OR  262-2297
 > www.BabysFirstNurse.com
 > [log in to unmask]
 >
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