I don't' have the resources at my fingertips but I remember hearing at
the ILCA conference 3 years ago that this "razor sharp" biting can be a
precurser to reflux later on. My daughter had 2 children with severe
reflux and could not figure out why.  I have even heard some of the
Pediatricians talking about this so they are hearing as well.
Jane Helgesen
Lactation Consultant 
Burnsville, MN



Date:    Tue, 7 Jul 2009 20:22:22 -0400
From:    Sima Leah <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Nursing Pain

OK.  Dumb subject name; but i don't know how to title it otherwise.
With= =20 permission, this mother is the second one i've seen that I
can't figure o= ut the=20 pain  - first woman didn't come back after I
sent her to a doctor to chec= k for=20 tight frenulum.=20=20 this is
this mom's baby number two.  first baby she managed to nurse for =
two=20 months thinking all the time it would eventually get better.  But
here we=  are,=20 two weeks after her second birth, and she dreads each
session.  Prays the= =20 baby will sleep a little longer.=20=20 The
latch looks great.  When the baby releases the breast, nipple looks t=
he=20 same. She describes the pain as like he's biting with a mouth full
of tee= th, and=20 cutting through her skin.  there are superficial
cuts, but not larger -  = and I=20 couldn't see much of the skin as
she's using gentian violet, hoping it's = yeast.=20=20 She has tried
APNO, but not getting consistent results - some days it fee= ls=20 like
it's getting better, but then it gets bad again.=20 Birth was great -
she stayed home almost until it was time to push, got t= o the=20
hospital and pushed the baby out in minutes.  Cute baby with dimples;
hea= d,=20 face, mouth looks symmetric.  Tongue movement looks ok,
although he's not= =20 taking in a great amount at a feed; he's 8 lbs
and on three test feeds he= =20 takes around 2 oz every 2-3 hours.
doesn't seem like a lot.  Maybe we mi= ssed=20 a tongue tie, but his
tongue looks fine to me.  nipples look fine after n= ursing,=20 and the
cuts are in the center, not underneath the nipple or at the base.=
=20=20 Mother has expressed finally, that she does have sensative skin -
can't w= ax,=20 get facials, strong soaps...
She really wants to breastfeed, but is not going to last much longer.  I
= sure=20 wouldn't.  

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