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Betsy Koval <[log in to unmask]>
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Sun, 29 Sep 2002 18:49:27 -0400
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Hello all;

Some of you may remember me; I am not a professional but have occasion to
run into various breastfeeding situations from time to time and so have
posted to this list a few times before.  I have noticed that various
parenting books have been reviewed here, especially as they relate to
breastfeeding issues.  I have great concern with a "new" parenting and
classroom management philopsophy that is being introduced in my kids'
school, called "Love and Logic," by Jim Fay and Foster Cline.  I find this
approach very offensive, even though it perports to be one couched
in "empathy".  I have recetnly learned that they have published a book
called "Love and Logic Magic for Early Childhood" but I have not seen it
yet.  I think if I could I would be able to find out more of what the
authors' underlying views of children are.  I know one thing they advised
in their book "Parenting with Love and Logic" to do with a child that wakes
you up in the night, is to hire a babysitter and tell the child that since
he keeps waking them up at night, they are going to a motel so they can get
a good night's sleep....and then tells the babysitter to tell the child
that she doesn't know how to take care of night time needs so he can't wake
her up either.   This is supposed to "teach" the child not to bother the
parents at night.  This is just one of several horrifying snipets I could
give, but I am wondering if anyone out there would know of critiques that
have been offered to this method.  I am also interested in whether anyone
has read the book about infancy.  I know they state that their "techniques"
can be used starting at 8-9 months, which to me is a scary thought.

Thanks so much for any info you can give to me.  Please email me privately
if you can help with this, to [log in to unmask]  Thanks, and peace
to all.

Betsy Koval
Lansing, MI

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